The only highlight of our trip was the first two days spent at the north-west region (Sapa) of Vietnam, where the ethnic minorities lived at. We were happy there and felt so at ease with the ethnic people. They're a lovely bunch of helpful, friendly and simple people. During our stay there, we did not encounter a single hiccup. It's a pity though, as we've lost the only pictures and videos that described how much we loved Sapa, their people, the scenic landscape and their hospitality.
Disclaimer: The photos used to illustrate Sapa and the surrounding regions have been taken off the Internet because the SD card was stolen along with my camera. Other photos were taken with a camera phone and a disposable camera.
Day 1: Reached Hanoi, boarded overnight train to Sapa

We reached Hanoi around evening time and headed straight to Hanoi Paradise Hotel at Hang Chieu St. to collect our train tickets to Sapa. On this very first night, we witnessed how violent certain Vietnamese men are. We were in the taxi and were making our way to the train station, when we saw a man beating up another man on a motorbike. We didn't know why he did that as we had missed the part that led up to the fist fight. But when the man (who got beaten up) turned around, we could see blood flowing profusely out of his nose. He didn't put up a fight and simply rode away on his bike. Thank goodness we weren't walking past but were in a car.
The first "tourist scam" we encountered was when the driver (who is a staff of the hotel) insisted we give him more money because he had been pulled over by the police for committing a traffic offence. He wanted us to pay him more in order to compensate for the bribe he had given the police. We insisted we were not to be held responsible for that and refused to pay.
We reached Lao Cai station around 5 in the morning and took the mini van transfer to our hotel - Bamboo Sapa Hotel.






Along the way, they each made a horse out of straw for the both of us, which I've framed up:


We went up and down the fields, mountains and valleys. We also managed to see plenty of streams, rice terraces, animals and people during the trek. It was actually rather cold when we started in the morning and we were blowing mist out of our mouths each time we talked, but once the trek started, it became really hot and we were soaked in our own sweat.




Once we reached our lunch destination, we saw big groups of Black H'mong women and children crowding around the entrance areas of the huts where we were having lunch, waiting to sell stuff to tourists. We bought some items from the two ladies who had followed us all the way from Sapa and it was customary to do so since they had offered us help. The lady who followed me, called Su, gave me two embroidered bracelets after I bought a cushion cover from her. She said that one of the bracelets was for my mother. How sweet!

Thank goodness we didn't have to trek all the way back to Sapa again! The tour guide had arranged a jeep for us and we arrived back at Sapa within 20 minutes, as compared to the 3 hour trek we did before!
We decided to chill for a bit, so we sat somewhere sipping Vietnamese coffee and soaking in the peace and serenity of Sapa. There were another group of villagers, the Red Zao, who frequent Sapa and the Love Market that is held there.
Red Zao women
We decided to chill for a bit, so we sat somewhere sipping Vietnamese coffee and soaking in the peace and serenity of Sapa. There were another group of villagers, the Red Zao, who frequent Sapa and the Love Market that is held there.

After a nap, we went out for dinner and had a wonderful meal of beef hotpot, Vietnamese style. It was pretty cold at night, so we wandered around for awhile before heading back to get some rest before next day's tour.
Oh, and did I mention that the Black H'mong people speak better English than the locals in Hanoi? It's so much easier communicating with them here than in Hanoi.
Day 3: Bac Ha market, Chinese border and back to Hanoi
We went for another tour with the hotel, this time to the weekend market - Bac Ha market, where people from the Flower H'mong village would gather weekly to buy their daily items and socialise with other people.
It was a 3 hour drive up to the Bac Ha market, with magnificent scenery accompanying us along the way.
Bac Ha market
Packed with Flower H'mong people
Lunchtime
Buying livestock such as water buffaloes, pigs and puppies (as food, not pets)
Oh, and did I mention that the Black H'mong people speak better English than the locals in Hanoi? It's so much easier communicating with them here than in Hanoi.
Day 3: Bac Ha market, Chinese border and back to Hanoi
We went for another tour with the hotel, this time to the weekend market - Bac Ha market, where people from the Flower H'mong village would gather weekly to buy their daily items and socialise with other people.
It was a 3 hour drive up to the Bac Ha market, with magnificent scenery accompanying us along the way.




After our excursion to Bac Ha market, we then took a 3 hour drive to Lao Cai (where the railway station is). The guide brought us to the China-Vietnam border, which was close to Kunming:

The van dropped us at Lao Cai, where we showered at a guesthouse for 1 USD/pax and waited for around 3 hours before we boarded the train back to Hanoi.
Lao Cai railway station

The van dropped us at Lao Cai, where we showered at a guesthouse for 1 USD/pax and waited for around 3 hours before we boarded the train back to Hanoi.

Day 4: Hanoi
This was the day we came back from such an amazing tour to Sapa and it was also the morning where we had our cameras stolen and our pictures of Sapa gone along with them.
I will not repeat the story again, because it's such a long one. But after that incident, we made our way to the hotel and it was CLOSED! We weren't able to check-in and we insisted on going to the police station. The staff called a cab for us, but the driver brought us to the district station where we were turned away and told to go to the station just around the corner from the hotel. The police in Hanoi do not speak a single word of English. Not one. So they just handed me a statement and I had to fill it in myself. They then stamped it and that was that. Case closed.
We returned to the hotel around 7am and it was STILL closed! By this time, we were really tired, stressed, upset, hungry and extremely pissed. We even had an argument with the receptionist because we found out that the hotel DID offer transfer from Hanoi railway station back to the hotel! She insisted she didn't know that we went to Sapa but that was bullshit because a few days ago, we were there talking to her and we even left some of our luggage with her! Argh.
Anyway, we decided not to stay there anymore and let them earn our money, so we went to a Hanoi Elegance 1, where the service was impeccable.
The staff were friendly and always willing to help. They were genuinely concerned and offered assistance whenever they could. Although the room we managed to get at the very last minute didn't have a view and only had a small window, we enjoyed our stay there.
We only stayed for one night instead of two because we wanted to get out of the chaotic city, so we changed our itinerary a bit.
Day 5: Halong Bay and Cat Ba Island
Everything we saw at Hanoi reminded us of the thief so we extended our Halong Bay tour and stayed on an island there instead. We boarded the junk at Haiphong, which was a 3 hour drive from Hanoi:
Haiphong pier (spot any lovey dovey couple in this picture?)

Our junk - the Santa Maria Cruiser
Waiting for lunch to be served on board
Having fun on deck
Chillin'
Cruisin'
This was the day we came back from such an amazing tour to Sapa and it was also the morning where we had our cameras stolen and our pictures of Sapa gone along with them.
I will not repeat the story again, because it's such a long one. But after that incident, we made our way to the hotel and it was CLOSED! We weren't able to check-in and we insisted on going to the police station. The staff called a cab for us, but the driver brought us to the district station where we were turned away and told to go to the station just around the corner from the hotel. The police in Hanoi do not speak a single word of English. Not one. So they just handed me a statement and I had to fill it in myself. They then stamped it and that was that. Case closed.
We returned to the hotel around 7am and it was STILL closed! By this time, we were really tired, stressed, upset, hungry and extremely pissed. We even had an argument with the receptionist because we found out that the hotel DID offer transfer from Hanoi railway station back to the hotel! She insisted she didn't know that we went to Sapa but that was bullshit because a few days ago, we were there talking to her and we even left some of our luggage with her! Argh.
Anyway, we decided not to stay there anymore and let them earn our money, so we went to a Hanoi Elegance 1, where the service was impeccable.
The staff were friendly and always willing to help. They were genuinely concerned and offered assistance whenever they could. Although the room we managed to get at the very last minute didn't have a view and only had a small window, we enjoyed our stay there.
We only stayed for one night instead of two because we wanted to get out of the chaotic city, so we changed our itinerary a bit.
Day 5: Halong Bay and Cat Ba Island
Everything we saw at Hanoi reminded us of the thief so we extended our Halong Bay tour and stayed on an island there instead. We boarded the junk at Haiphong, which was a 3 hour drive from Hanoi:
Our first stop of the Halong Bay tour was at Sung Sot Cave (Surprise Cave). This cave was massive! I think it could be as big as a football field.

No, that's not the cave. We're IN the cave.



Viewpoint from the cave
After visiting the cave, we separated from the rest of the group travelling on the Santa Maria and made our way to Cat Ba Island on a smaller boat, that went soooo slowly, we thought we were never going to make it to Cat Ba.
By the time we reached Cat Ba, it was dinner time so we ate at the hotel's restaurant (meals included in the tour) and wandered around the streets for a bit. It is such a quiet town, mainly because it was winter and non-peak season. The streets were pretty much empty, except for a few tourists and a handful of locals.
View from the hotel room
Holiday View Hotel
There was nothing to do that night, so we turned in early.
Day 6: Cat Ba island, trekking at Viet Hai and one night on the junk
As we arrived after dark the previous night, we woke up at 5.30 in the morning to catch how Cat Ba island looks like in the day before we packed our bags to leave at 7am.
Leaving Cat Ba
By the time we reached Cat Ba, it was dinner time so we ate at the hotel's restaurant (meals included in the tour) and wandered around the streets for a bit. It is such a quiet town, mainly because it was winter and non-peak season. The streets were pretty much empty, except for a few tourists and a handful of locals.
There was nothing to do that night, so we turned in early.
Day 6: Cat Ba island, trekking at Viet Hai and one night on the junk
As we arrived after dark the previous night, we woke up at 5.30 in the morning to catch how Cat Ba island looks like in the day before we packed our bags to leave at 7am.
We left Cat Ba in the morning and the next activity in our itinerary was to trek at one of the karsts near Cat Ba. But first, we had to pick up to tourists from the junk. While waiting for them to get on board, Bunny bought a seashell from one of the girls from the fishing villages:


Our small boat brought us to Viet Hai for trekking. It was quite a challenging trek through the rainforest, but not quite as difficult as the one we attempted at Sapa. What's more, Bunny trekked in her flip-flops! Mind you, the rocks were slippery, there were thorns from plants and it's not easy balancing yourself on uneven ground with slippers. But she managed to do it and she deserves a medal!


Halfway through the rainforest, we came to a clearing. There was an attap house where an old man and his wife live at. I assume that they're the only ones living in that particular karst:

We continued our trek up the mountain and out onto a man-made road! I was surprised to see this because the area where we entered the karst was not developed and it was only a tiny opening accessible only by sampan boat. Nonetheless, it was a great relief to be walking on flat ground for the rest of the trek towards our boat:


Struggling to complete the last leg of the trek
Looking very "peasant" like
Our small boat brought us to Viet Hai for trekking. It was quite a challenging trek through the rainforest, but not quite as difficult as the one we attempted at Sapa. What's more, Bunny trekked in her flip-flops! Mind you, the rocks were slippery, there were thorns from plants and it's not easy balancing yourself on uneven ground with slippers. But she managed to do it and she deserves a medal!
Halfway through the rainforest, we came to a clearing. There was an attap house where an old man and his wife live at. I assume that they're the only ones living in that particular karst:
We continued our trek up the mountain and out onto a man-made road! I was surprised to see this because the area where we entered the karst was not developed and it was only a tiny opening accessible only by sampan boat. Nonetheless, it was a great relief to be walking on flat ground for the rest of the trek towards our boat:
We went back to our boat and it was time for lunch. The idea was to have lunch on a private beach and this was the "beach":

We decided to have lunch on the boat instead.
We headed back to the junk to spend a night there. The rooms on this junk weren't too bad:
There wasn't much to do on the junk so we just sat around taking pictures and waited for hot water to shower, and for the sun to set before dinner was served:

The tour guides arranged a mini party after the dinner because of two celebrations - it was the birthday of a Canadian lady and the honeymoon of an Australian couple. There were plenty of wine, fruits and cake to go around:

Everyone turned in early that night because the next day we had to wake up at 6am to kayak.
Day 7: Kayaking, return to Hanoi
We had a good night's rest on board the junk because it was pretty quiet. After breakfast, we got ready to get ourselves wet from kayaking:
A lady pulling the kayaks over to our junk
Heading underneath a karst


She loves to kayak
It's getting gloomy

Outside Ho Chi Minh Museum
"Capitalism and communism stand at different poles."

One Pillar Pagoda
We decided to have lunch on the boat instead.
We headed back to the junk to spend a night there. The rooms on this junk weren't too bad:
There wasn't much to do on the junk so we just sat around taking pictures and waited for hot water to shower, and for the sun to set before dinner was served:
The tour guides arranged a mini party after the dinner because of two celebrations - it was the birthday of a Canadian lady and the honeymoon of an Australian couple. There were plenty of wine, fruits and cake to go around:
Everyone turned in early that night because the next day we had to wake up at 6am to kayak.
Day 7: Kayaking, return to Hanoi
We had a good night's rest on board the junk because it was pretty quiet. After breakfast, we got ready to get ourselves wet from kayaking:






Kayaking was pretty fun, although the kayaks were a bit heavier than the ones we used at Angthong. After the intense shoulder and arm exercise, we returned to the junk to wash up and check-out of our cabin. Lunch was served on board and we made our way back to Haiphong to return to Hanoi.
Another screw up occurred during our journey back. Instead of putting us on the same bus as the rest of the people who had stayed on the junk, Bunny and I were placed on another bus that was heading for lunch somewhere else! Nobody told us anything beforehand and the guide of this new bus refused to answer our questions when we asked him if we're going for lunch.
Bunny got real pissed and started scolding the guide and that was when he started being nice to us and treated us with respect. We called the office of the tour company and the manager insisted that the rest of the tour turn back to fetch us. Urgh. So much hassle and screw ups! We really enjoyed our Halong Bay tour but this just ruined everything.
And it wasn't the end of it.
We returned to Hanoi 3 hours later and went straight to their office to complain and kick up a fuss. After that, we headed to Hanoi Prince Hotel. We had booked a room almost 3 weeks in advance, but upon reaching there, they said that they were full and wanted to place us at another hotel named Sunny Hotel.
It's not the first time this has happened to tourists and we realised that this is how Hanoi operates. Many hotels are in cahoots with one another, so if they can't earn much from you, they'll refuse to take you in and dump you at a hotel that is inferior to the one you booked. And you pay the same price.
So we ended up at Sunny Hotel, which was the most basic hotel we've ever stayed at. Ironically, this hotel had the best shower water pressure, heater and TV channels we've came across in Hanoi!
Day 8: Last day at Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum and Museum
There isn't much to see in Hanoi itself. The only places of interests are the common touristy places such as museums and such. So we made our way to the Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum and wanted to see his body. However, it was closed on Fridays so we missed out on that.

Another screw up occurred during our journey back. Instead of putting us on the same bus as the rest of the people who had stayed on the junk, Bunny and I were placed on another bus that was heading for lunch somewhere else! Nobody told us anything beforehand and the guide of this new bus refused to answer our questions when we asked him if we're going for lunch.
Bunny got real pissed and started scolding the guide and that was when he started being nice to us and treated us with respect. We called the office of the tour company and the manager insisted that the rest of the tour turn back to fetch us. Urgh. So much hassle and screw ups! We really enjoyed our Halong Bay tour but this just ruined everything.
And it wasn't the end of it.
We returned to Hanoi 3 hours later and went straight to their office to complain and kick up a fuss. After that, we headed to Hanoi Prince Hotel. We had booked a room almost 3 weeks in advance, but upon reaching there, they said that they were full and wanted to place us at another hotel named Sunny Hotel.
It's not the first time this has happened to tourists and we realised that this is how Hanoi operates. Many hotels are in cahoots with one another, so if they can't earn much from you, they'll refuse to take you in and dump you at a hotel that is inferior to the one you booked. And you pay the same price.
So we ended up at Sunny Hotel, which was the most basic hotel we've ever stayed at. Ironically, this hotel had the best shower water pressure, heater and TV channels we've came across in Hanoi!
Day 8: Last day at Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum and Museum
There isn't much to see in Hanoi itself. The only places of interests are the common touristy places such as museums and such. So we made our way to the Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum and wanted to see his body. However, it was closed on Fridays so we missed out on that.






We didn't spend a lot of time at the museum and memorial area, so we went back to the Old Quarters to explore the other side of it:
St. Joseph's Cathedral
Looking bloated and terribly exhausted
Bunny doesn't look half as bad as I did



We did some last minute shopping along the streets before heading back to our hotel. There weren't many things to buy at Hanoi so Bunny got a few t-shirts and we bought a few magnets, postcards and stuff. Hmm, I should have bought their red t-shirt with the Vietnamese star on it but every time we thought of the thief, we just didn't want to parade their flag around.
We finally headed home after our long and tiring trip at Hanoi. Nothing felt better than stepping on familiar soil...and civilisation.
We now wish for a scam-free holiday and one where we could just chill and relax without having to move around everyday. Perhaps our next destination will be to Boracay...sand, sea and sun!
We finally headed home after our long and tiring trip at Hanoi. Nothing felt better than stepping on familiar soil...and civilisation.
We now wish for a scam-free holiday and one where we could just chill and relax without having to move around everyday. Perhaps our next destination will be to Boracay...sand, sea and sun!
18 comments:
hi there.. came across ur blog looking up sammi concert stuff.. shes coming to melbourne n had the dvd.. anyways.. not the point
just thought it was funny that my friends n i were in hanoi, halong at around the same time n we suffered from the same scams.. so dont feel bad.. its how VN works generally.... i'm half viet n speak fluent viet n we still got scammed.. so its ok... its all part of the experience.. tho we did get to stay at the hanoi prince hotel.. they just gave us a smaller room than the one we booked...
interesting blog
cheers
V
Oh hi! Are you from Melbourne too?
Yes, it was definitely an experience and guess what? My partner and I are going back to Vietnam next month!
We'll be heading to Danang and Hoi An. We're thinking if we should visit Hue because there's really nothing of interest there and we don't really wanna waste 2 days.
Anyway, thanks for popping by!
hey was gonna ask u about sapa.. was wondering if that is worth my while.. thinking of doing a biking tour/ treking tour of VN with my friends ..didnt have the time this year/ time..we planned to stop in singapore but didnt make it either
but we made it to danang, hue and hoi an that time.. i really liked hoi an.. its a quite lil town that reminded me alot of kyoto in japan only more primitive.. but defintely get clothes tailored there.. dont get ripped off.. but i guess it sorta unavoidable.. i think central VN is great.. hue is very different.. the old tombs are a highlight but u can just do a day trip from danang.. no need to stay there.. we did that n had plenty of time ..thanks to the new tunnel that goes under the treacherous hills from danang to hue.. might be more expensive cos of tolls tho..
thought u had a bad experience last time.. but still going bak to VN..
yeh im from melb.. but looking up the job prospects for me in HK/ singapore.. sorta sick of melb.. tho i love this place..
cheers
Yes, Sapa is definitely a must-go! We absolutely loved it there and we still talk about it till this day. The tribal people at Sapa are really nice as well, definitely different from the people at Hanoi.
It's best to stay there for at least 2 nights. Plus you'll be taking a 9 hour train journey up to Sapa, so it's best to stay longer.
We only stayed for 1 night and we were rather upset the next day because we wanted to spend more time there, but due to time constraints, we had to leave. So do go to Sapa if you can! I think you'll enjoy it more than Halong Bay or Hanoi.
So you went to Hue on a day trip? How did you manage to do that? Did you book a guide or something? We did think of doing a day trip but just couldn't coordinate the timing and all that coz we're arriving at Danang around 9pm.
hey thanks for the tip on sapa... but dont think im gonna head to Vn again any time soon..broke n out of leave.
so for our Vn trip we based ourselves in Hoi an and did day trips to danang (about 30mins away) and hue (about 1hr ish). yeah we got a driver from our hotel, wasnt exactly a tour cos he just drove (and a very bad driver too!!) and dropped us off at places we wanted to go. researching first is the key- lonely planet is a fair guide tho some restaurants and bars are out of date. but i think a tour with a proper guide is much much better, as it was a bit of a bother trying to read up some history while at the place. speaking viet helped alot. btw DO NOT stay at the glory hotel hoi an.. fake 4 stars!!! all a big scam! we didnt spend any time at all in danang.. just drove by a few times.. hoi an was definitely a highlight.. lots of chinese ppl there too
if u can avoid, try avoiding the beach front hotels/ resorts in hoi an and danang, they're very nice but all built on excavated cemeteries.. unless u dont mind that is. u can bike ride around hoi an so that's sorta fun.
hue in a day is a can do, tho bit rushed.. it can be done if u start early and stay on track.. cos we managed in raincoats thru the hurricane that day.
u should do nha trang and dalat too.. more quite n not so hectic as ho chi minh city or hanoi..
tho i liked ha noi very much. just found it funny that we also missed seeing ho chi minh's body too. must be a common thing for travellers
btw u look exactly like my aunt.. not that im saying ur old.. just features =)
Wow! Sounds like you've almost explored the whole of Vietnam huh?
Oh my, we just booked a beach hotel! The Swissbel Golden Sand resort! Oh no, we had NO clue that it was built on excavated cemeteries! Hmm, but so far the reviews for that hotel has been rather good, so I would assume that it's "safe"?
I think we might skip Hue altogether coz there's nothing interesting there. The only thing that interests us is the HV Pass. That's it. We're not really interested in seeing monuments that can be seen in China (much grander too).
So what other hotel did you stay at in Hoi An? If we won't be heading to Hue, we'll just book another hotel at Hoi An instead.
:D Cheers!
yeah been to most of VN, was born in VN so sorta like my mother land. my family has a holiday home in ho chi minh and nha trang so we head there often. though everytime we go, its very short and only in city area. my friends love vietnamese food too so im constantly annoyed about going to VN - free accommodation is a big tick for them =P
we didnt stay anywhere else in hoi an besides that place cos we all got sick n couldnt be bothered moving + all the good hotels were booked out. but yeah we tried the golden sands one.. does sound and look very nice. so dont worry too much. just forget and enjoy.
just think cos of the war there are lots of ruins in the area and lots of construction and rebuilding is still going.
would love to go china to see grander things... damn post-grad studies.. but think eventually im gonna have to move to a chinese speaking country for a bit to improve on my chinese..my parents are always complaining about losing traits
got some stupid photos my friends added from our VN trip , including hue and hoi an. ones of us in raincoats are in hue. if that helps gives u an idea of hue.
http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?page=2&id=729146064&view=all
HV pass is only good in good weather if its foggy, u wont see anything so choose a day with good weather
cheers
Cool! Thanks a lot for sharing!
It did look rather gloomy during your trip coz I see you guys donning raincoats and all!
Anyway, thanks a lot for your trip advice!
Happy future travels to you and feel free to contact me if you have any queries or whatsoever. :D
no probs.. gonna need ur tips for some asian places later..
have fun in VN!
Hi there,
Chanced upon your blog while trudging through the net for Sapa weather in December.
Sorry to read about the theft and scams. :(
Was wondering if you could help me? -
Which part of Dec were you in Sapa? What was the temperature like?
Cheers,
Eileena Lee
Hi Eileena,
Thanks for stopping by!
December wasn't freezing cold, although at night, the temperature does drop and you could see mist coming out of your mouth when you speak.
In the day, there was sun and it didn't rain at all while I was there. It gets hot because you're constantly trekking and walking under the sun, so just a t-shirt and windbreaker will do. We ended up taking off ALL our jackets! So do try to wear less clothing. It's not humid at all so trekking in a nice cool weather under the sun is really enjoyable.
I would suggest wearing slightly thicker clothing at night and in the hotel as some of the rooms don't have heaters. Maybe a thicker woollen or ski jacket will be enough. Oh and do bring a scarf along as well. Personally, I don't think gloves are necessary, but it's up to you.
Sapa is really beautiful; the people there are amazing too. If I could, I would go back there but the thought of taking a 9 hour train again isn't very enticing. Hahaha! Enjoy your trip there!
Whoa! That was fast!
The tips are much appreciated!
Hope to bump into you sometime.
By the way most saturdays, I can be found at www.pelangipridecentre.org
(we're moving to tanjong pagar from our current location in August)
Perhaps you and your partner would like to pop by for tea sometime.
Hahaha. Yes, I'm usually online, that's why.
Oh, I've heard of that place a lot but have yet to visit it. Well, we'll probably pop by one day to check it out. :)
heya, it's me again.
sorry to bother you, but how long was your entire Vietnam trip? Seem like you and bunny covered quite a bit?
It was about 6-7 days. We spent only 2 days in Sapa, 2 days in Hanoi itself and 2 days in Halong Bay. Something like that.
oh my... quite alot of trekking covered in 6-7days.
thanks again for the prompt response.
Hey Eileena. Do you happen to be the owner of the Red Queen group? I've been wanting to join and I've sent a few emails but I haven't gotten a response yet. Are you able to include me into the group and mailing list as well? Thanks!
Heya, wah good thing I thought I should pop by to kaypoh, if not would have missed your request.
Could you email me at eileena dot lee at gmail dot com? I'm the list owner of RQ, will add you when I've recieved your email?
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